this is a great little course tucked away just in the hills of cortland n.y..the course is maintained quite well with all the challenging holes you could want.depending from year to year they have one of the longest par 4's around this area that is a dogleg left, over water, downhill to the green that i believe is about 525 yrds .the par 4 holes are the short side but dont let that fool you bye any means.the greens on this course rival tour speed and quality when they have them groomed up tight.the temptation is there to swing for the green but it may bite you back 4 fold.try it if you can as you wont be dissapointed.